9 thoughts on “Ron Paul on Cablegate

  1. An excellent speech. I have my disagreements with Ron Paul, but I agree with his entire speech here.

  2. I generally go along with the idea that democratic, public, governments should be open about what they do, but history shows us that there are exceptions, and there are good reasons for some of the exceptions. For instance, the British didn’t reveal their code-breaking computers during the war, and they kept it secret after the war- would they have been better to have revealed this at the time, at the end of WW2?

  3. Nuke – your asking if things would be better if the computer revolution happened sooner. Let
    me think about that for half a nano-second and get back to you.

  4. TerjeP, I was just wondering if Britain gained any advantage from keeping their computing skills secret- presumably so they could spy on the messages of other countries.

  5. Ron Paul makes some very sound points. Total government transparency might not be feasible (for reasons including the point made by Nuke), but there’s a lot to be said for embarrassing the government. In any case, I thought the US came out looking good.

    I doubt they will put Assange on trial in the US. But if they do, he’ll become a cause celebre and exonerated. Their legal system works better than ours and probably better than Sweden’s.

  6. Nuke – no doubt. Every government wants to know the secrets of other governments. That’s what the intelligence and code busting game is all about. Wikileaks is in keeping with that pattern and tradition except they are code busting government secrets for the sake of society, not a specific government. They are the civil society version of an intelligence agency. For those that see no difference between government and society the only possible beneficiary of the leaks are our enemies. For those who see a clear distinction between the interests of society and the interests of a given government the leaks will be seen as have a more nuanced effect.

    If the best example of a necessary government secret relates to their ability to crack other governments secrets then the virtues of government secrecy are quite limited.

  7. I totally agree with most of what Ron has said, but I have to draw the line at his rather idiosyncratic prejudice against spying. Spying on other countries is in the main a defence related activity, which is a legitimate part of the governments responsibilities.

    I would be more concerned with the activities of the Department of Homeland security who act against their own people than with the CIA or diplomats.

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